1 00:00:24,639 --> 00:00:16,080 [Music] 2 00:00:28,089 --> 00:00:24,649 since I joined the SSC so many people 3 00:00:30,490 --> 00:00:28,099 have told me that I've gone bananas that 4 00:00:33,010 --> 00:00:30,500 I took it as a sign that I should that I 5 00:00:36,069 --> 00:00:33,020 should study them so I'm I'm moving off 6 00:00:38,410 --> 00:00:36,079 my usual comfort zone I know a number of 7 00:00:41,050 --> 00:00:38,420 you were here for the first time and in 8 00:00:43,840 --> 00:00:41,060 years past for a whole bunch of years 9 00:00:46,450 --> 00:00:43,850 I've done healing experiments with mice 10 00:00:48,310 --> 00:00:46,460 and that's really been my my thing and 11 00:00:50,980 --> 00:00:48,320 the very short version to get this out 12 00:00:55,240 --> 00:00:50,990 of the way in one minute is I take very 13 00:00:56,950 --> 00:00:55,250 very good-looking people and it's an 14 00:01:00,069 --> 00:00:56,960 interesting correlation that that ugly 15 00:01:02,110 --> 00:01:00,079 people can't heal but I take very 16 00:01:05,170 --> 00:01:02,120 good-looking people who are skeptical 17 00:01:07,630 --> 00:01:05,180 and inexperienced I train them in a 18 00:01:11,319 --> 00:01:07,640 healing technique that I've devised and 19 00:01:14,469 --> 00:01:11,329 it's also public and then we put our 20 00:01:16,660 --> 00:01:14,479 hands around animal cages normal various 21 00:01:19,059 --> 00:01:16,670 types of mice usually which have various 22 00:01:20,919 --> 00:01:19,069 types of cancer we take them through a 23 00:01:23,590 --> 00:01:20,929 healing protocol an interesting thing 24 00:01:24,969 --> 00:01:23,600 happens and this is to get this out of 25 00:01:26,889 --> 00:01:24,979 the way because it's not the focus of 26 00:01:30,190 --> 00:01:26,899 today so with this an example of an 27 00:01:31,539 --> 00:01:30,200 ulcerated cancerous Mouse once really 28 00:01:33,940 --> 00:01:31,549 good-looking people put their hands 29 00:01:36,730 --> 00:01:33,950 around it given sufficient time the 30 00:01:39,129 --> 00:01:36,740 mouse is cured and they're cured for 31 00:01:41,649 --> 00:01:39,139 life and so among the interesting things 32 00:01:44,169 --> 00:01:41,659 we find is not only full cure full cure 33 00:01:45,999 --> 00:01:44,179 for life immunity to further injections 34 00:01:48,219 --> 00:01:46,009 of cancer and I could keep going on and 35 00:01:51,639 --> 00:01:48,229 I've reported on these for quite some 36 00:01:53,529 --> 00:01:51,649 time and it's interesting it's 37 00:01:55,690 --> 00:01:53,539 interesting with so many replications 38 00:01:58,809 --> 00:01:55,700 that it's no longer interesting to ask 39 00:02:00,489 --> 00:01:58,819 can you cure cancer it's been done too 40 00:02:02,019 --> 00:02:00,499 many times hundreds and hundreds of mice 41 00:02:04,719 --> 00:02:02,029 and it's not interesting we got to move 42 00:02:08,020 --> 00:02:04,729 on to other secondary correlates and 43 00:02:10,900 --> 00:02:08,030 such and so in terms of numbers of 44 00:02:13,540 --> 00:02:10,910 experiments just on these what you just 45 00:02:16,059 --> 00:02:13,550 saw was a mammary cancer I have two of 46 00:02:20,230 --> 00:02:16,069 these at City University two at one at 47 00:02:22,420 --> 00:02:20,240 three at we have experiments using sort 48 00:02:25,030 --> 00:02:22,430 Camas we have experiments using 49 00:02:27,090 --> 00:02:25,040 oncogenic mice we have experiments using 50 00:02:29,710 --> 00:02:27,100 nude mice those are pretty racy 51 00:02:31,420 --> 00:02:29,720 extremely aggressive cancers I've done 52 00:02:33,430 --> 00:02:31,430 it in vitro I've done it I've done it 53 00:02:35,710 --> 00:02:33,440 I've done it you get the idea so I have 54 00:02:38,380 --> 00:02:35,720 a whole lot of experiments on mice and 55 00:02:41,350 --> 00:02:38,390 healing cancer and frankly the the main 56 00:02:44,400 --> 00:02:41,360 research interest I have right now is to 57 00:02:47,050 --> 00:02:44,410 see if I can turn this into a therapy 58 00:02:49,450 --> 00:02:47,060 because the phenomenons there can I turn 59 00:02:51,040 --> 00:02:49,460 this into a self-replicating therapy so 60 00:02:53,650 --> 00:02:51,050 among the interesting findings we've had 61 00:02:56,110 --> 00:02:53,660 is we can take cells from a remitting 62 00:02:59,020 --> 00:02:56,120 Mouse put it into a fully infected Mouse 63 00:03:01,450 --> 00:02:59,030 it'll cure that mouse something's going 64 00:03:04,090 --> 00:03:01,460 on and the question is how do we unravel 65 00:03:07,270 --> 00:03:04,100 that and such this is not the purpose of 66 00:03:09,340 --> 00:03:07,280 the talk today I've only reported here 67 00:03:11,830 --> 00:03:09,350 about half of my mice experiment so I 68 00:03:17,860 --> 00:03:11,840 have more to go in future years but the 69 00:03:20,050 --> 00:03:17,870 good news is no rodents today yeah and 70 00:03:21,850 --> 00:03:20,060 so I got letters from rodents and I say 71 00:03:24,670 --> 00:03:21,860 please enough already you know what the 72 00:03:28,060 --> 00:03:24,680 let it go let it go now it turns out 73 00:03:31,150 --> 00:03:28,070 rodent research is a problem it's a 74 00:03:34,390 --> 00:03:31,160 problem for a couple of reasons there 75 00:03:38,590 --> 00:03:34,400 are it's very difficult to get through 76 00:03:40,300 --> 00:03:38,600 Animal Ethics committees and I could 77 00:03:42,280 --> 00:03:40,310 tell you chapter and verse of really 78 00:03:45,070 --> 00:03:42,290 ugly stories of what's happened to me 79 00:03:46,540 --> 00:03:45,080 with Adam Animal Ethics and and here's a 80 00:03:47,740 --> 00:03:46,550 real short version this is the 81 00:03:49,990 --> 00:03:47,750 University of British Columbia 82 00:03:53,500 --> 00:03:50,000 we can't allow you to do your healing 83 00:03:55,180 --> 00:03:53,510 Studies on mice because you don't do 84 00:03:56,650 --> 00:03:55,190 anything to the mice and so you can't 85 00:04:00,100 --> 00:03:56,660 give cancer to a mouse you don't do 86 00:04:02,050 --> 00:04:00,110 anything to I say but we've cured them 87 00:04:05,050 --> 00:04:02,060 in 13 experiments yeah but you don't do 88 00:04:10,580 --> 00:04:07,850 it's it's very strange out there and and 89 00:04:12,290 --> 00:04:10,590 so so you have that difficulty the 90 00:04:14,600 --> 00:04:12,300 second very difficulty you have is these 91 00:04:16,640 --> 00:04:14,610 things take a long time if you want to 92 00:04:19,190 --> 00:04:16,650 find out if the mice are cured rather 93 00:04:22,790 --> 00:04:19,200 than remitted you're going to got away 94 00:04:24,590 --> 00:04:22,800 two years did it come back and so when I 95 00:04:25,940 --> 00:04:24,600 say the mice are cured I'm not saying 96 00:04:28,129 --> 00:04:25,950 hey they got better for a week I'm 97 00:04:30,110 --> 00:04:28,139 talking we do the math thirteen 98 00:04:32,870 --> 00:04:30,120 experiments time two years each and I'm 99 00:04:35,240 --> 00:04:32,880 getting old and and so I need something 100 00:04:36,710 --> 00:04:35,250 that I that I can last longer and get 101 00:04:39,590 --> 00:04:36,720 through more iterations because I have a 102 00:04:40,969 --> 00:04:39,600 whole list of research questions I want 103 00:04:45,740 --> 00:04:40,979 to get through so I'm looking for a 104 00:04:49,190 --> 00:04:45,750 simpler model that's robust that's not 105 00:04:50,719 --> 00:04:49,200 subtle in its responses like here's a 106 00:04:52,820 --> 00:04:50,729 mouse that's sick here's a mouse that's 107 00:04:54,890 --> 00:04:52,830 cured and so I've been searching for 108 00:04:57,830 --> 00:04:54,900 I've done a number of experiments in 109 00:05:00,230 --> 00:04:57,840 vitro on various cell cultures I did 110 00:05:03,560 --> 00:05:00,240 want it UC San Diego but when I 111 00:05:04,940 --> 00:05:03,570 replicated it at Brown and didn't come 112 00:05:07,100 --> 00:05:04,950 out the same way so I'm having some 113 00:05:10,940 --> 00:05:07,110 trouble with reliability in vitro I'm 114 00:05:13,070 --> 00:05:10,950 waiting for a secondary study I did last 115 00:05:14,990 --> 00:05:13,080 summer after last year's SSC at Wake 116 00:05:17,120 --> 00:05:15,000 Forest med school and we're replicating 117 00:05:19,610 --> 00:05:17,130 in Providence I don't know the answer to 118 00:05:21,680 --> 00:05:19,620 what happened yet but I'm in the market 119 00:05:22,879 --> 00:05:21,690 for a quick down and dirty model that we 120 00:05:25,310 --> 00:05:22,889 can run through various healing 121 00:05:30,409 --> 00:05:25,320 iterations and as I'm playing with that 122 00:05:32,390 --> 00:05:30,419 I came across through my friendship with 123 00:05:36,920 --> 00:05:32,400 Bernie grad who passed a couple of years 124 00:05:40,219 --> 00:05:36,930 ago grad who's clearly I think in any 125 00:05:43,580 --> 00:05:40,229 reasonable articulation of the history 126 00:05:45,740 --> 00:05:43,590 of healing grads the guy so all healing 127 00:05:49,490 --> 00:05:45,750 research comes out one or another of 128 00:05:52,580 --> 00:05:49,500 grads lineage experiments plants animals 129 00:05:55,219 --> 00:05:52,590 wound you name it it's grad and he 130 00:05:58,820 --> 00:05:55,229 worked at McGill University in Montreal 131 00:06:01,159 --> 00:05:58,830 and he's the guy who took it on the chin 132 00:06:02,480 --> 00:06:01,169 for the rest of us and and just kept 133 00:06:03,860 --> 00:06:02,490 pushing the envelope pushing the 134 00:06:05,779 --> 00:06:03,870 envelope pushing the envelope and 135 00:06:08,960 --> 00:06:05,789 showing that this stuff could be done 136 00:06:12,320 --> 00:06:08,970 and one of the things in my friendship 137 00:06:13,790 --> 00:06:12,330 with him that he showed me was in the 138 00:06:15,170 --> 00:06:13,800 nineteen eighty he never published this 139 00:06:16,570 --> 00:06:15,180 so I'm kind of taking the ball and 140 00:06:18,580 --> 00:06:16,580 running with it and 141 00:06:23,200 --> 00:06:18,590 it's within the context of looking for 142 00:06:25,089 --> 00:06:23,210 something simpler than a mouse model he 143 00:06:26,409 --> 00:06:25,099 discovered and by discovered meeting 144 00:06:28,300 --> 00:06:26,419 someone came to him and showed him they 145 00:06:34,529 --> 00:06:28,310 could do it he discovered this one guy 146 00:06:38,890 --> 00:06:37,450 and I remember sitting in grads living 147 00:06:41,260 --> 00:06:38,900 room and he said well I want to show you 148 00:06:43,149 --> 00:06:41,270 mummified bananas and I said mummified 149 00:06:45,399 --> 00:06:43,159 bananas mummified right I mean what do 150 00:06:47,379 --> 00:06:45,409 you say about a mummified banana well 151 00:06:49,930 --> 00:06:47,389 you can say a lot of things about a 152 00:06:51,879 --> 00:06:49,940 moment fight banana and I'm gonna show 153 00:06:54,010 --> 00:06:51,889 you well here's a picture of one and 154 00:06:57,550 --> 00:06:54,020 I'll come back to that this banana is 155 00:06:59,200 --> 00:06:57,560 about 30 years old I'm gonna pass it 156 00:07:01,180 --> 00:06:59,210 around so there's gonna be a 157 00:07:03,550 --> 00:07:01,190 show-and-tell today I'm gonna pass it 158 00:07:06,850 --> 00:07:03,560 around and I didn't you're you're free 159 00:07:09,459 --> 00:07:06,860 to it's would like you could I'm asking 160 00:07:11,860 --> 00:07:09,469 you not to this is just means something 161 00:07:14,830 --> 00:07:11,870 to me because it's from grad it can be 162 00:07:16,600 --> 00:07:14,840 sawed it can be drilled it can be don't 163 00:07:18,339 --> 00:07:16,610 abuse this you know this is gonna be 164 00:07:20,980 --> 00:07:18,349 this is going on the mantelpiece 165 00:07:22,749 --> 00:07:20,990 whenever anybody calls me bananas so I'm 166 00:07:25,240 --> 00:07:22,759 gonna pass this around so you can see 167 00:07:26,860 --> 00:07:25,250 what I'm talking about here so you know 168 00:07:29,469 --> 00:07:26,870 touch it but don't don't see if it'll 169 00:07:32,079 --> 00:07:29,479 snap you know that kind of thing so this 170 00:07:36,459 --> 00:07:32,089 is a 30 year old banana and I'm gonna 171 00:07:39,399 --> 00:07:36,469 talk about what what grad found and then 172 00:07:41,170 --> 00:07:39,409 what we found so what this is also 173 00:07:45,879 --> 00:07:41,180 banana but this is someone younger and 174 00:07:48,159 --> 00:07:45,889 and George Ilya would hold this for the 175 00:07:50,379 --> 00:07:48,169 dosage that they gave he liked to hold 176 00:07:53,320 --> 00:07:50,389 it for two and a half minutes seven 177 00:07:54,550 --> 00:07:53,330 times a day for a couple of days that he 178 00:07:56,439 --> 00:07:54,560 would just hold it for two and a half 179 00:07:57,939 --> 00:07:56,449 minutes at a time and they'd put it down 180 00:08:00,279 --> 00:07:57,949 and he'd do it and he'd do it and that's 181 00:08:02,860 --> 00:08:00,289 what he liked to do and then if you did 182 00:08:06,879 --> 00:08:02,870 it it would turn into what you're seeing 183 00:08:11,379 --> 00:08:06,889 here it doesn't spoil the autolytic 184 00:08:13,899 --> 00:08:11,389 process is stopped and you'll see that 185 00:08:16,629 --> 00:08:13,909 I'm not really sure how and why it is 186 00:08:18,850 --> 00:08:16,639 stopped but I'm gonna invite you to take 187 00:08:24,830 --> 00:08:18,860 part in a banana experiment and the very 188 00:08:32,180 --> 00:08:28,540 I needed another so we'll say this is a 189 00:08:34,399 --> 00:08:32,190 treat and a treated banana meaning you 190 00:08:36,680 --> 00:08:34,409 he was spinning at seven times two and 191 00:08:42,290 --> 00:08:36,690 half times this is an untreated banana 192 00:08:44,440 --> 00:08:42,300 in terms of weight loss so as I'm doing 193 00:08:48,560 --> 00:08:44,450 this I'm talking about weight loss 194 00:08:51,200 --> 00:08:48,570 treated untreated you start doing this 195 00:08:53,660 --> 00:08:51,210 and the weight loss is tremendously 196 00:08:55,430 --> 00:08:53,670 accelerated for a treated banana and I 197 00:08:57,920 --> 00:08:55,440 mean tremendously we could do some math 198 00:09:01,070 --> 00:08:57,930 on it but what happens is tremendously 199 00:09:02,780 --> 00:09:01,080 it desiccates does not rot in any way 200 00:09:04,970 --> 00:09:02,790 shape or form and then eventually the 201 00:09:06,890 --> 00:09:04,980 rotting banana goes through the regular 202 00:09:09,470 --> 00:09:06,900 rotting process the autolytic process 203 00:09:11,570 --> 00:09:09,480 and then you end up with a non 204 00:09:14,710 --> 00:09:11,580 statistically significant difference in 205 00:09:19,490 --> 00:09:14,720 weight but a rotted banana is 206 00:09:21,769 --> 00:09:19,500 transparently a rotted banana it's not 207 00:09:23,450 --> 00:09:21,779 hard to figure it out you don't need 208 00:09:26,540 --> 00:09:23,460 special equipment you know all that and 209 00:09:28,190 --> 00:09:26,550 so it's a rotted banana this you as you 210 00:09:30,790 --> 00:09:28,200 pass it around you're clearly going to 211 00:09:35,060 --> 00:09:30,800 know it's not a rotted banana but it 212 00:09:36,920 --> 00:09:35,070 rapidly desiccates and then catches up 213 00:09:38,720 --> 00:09:36,930 so if we were just to go to the bottom 214 00:09:40,130 --> 00:09:38,730 line say we'll do it statistical 215 00:09:42,699 --> 00:09:40,140 significance is there a difference in 216 00:09:45,949 --> 00:09:42,709 weight loss no but the process is 217 00:09:50,090 --> 00:09:45,959 drastically accelerated if you go 218 00:09:52,040 --> 00:09:50,100 through the treatment process so again 219 00:09:53,690 --> 00:09:52,050 this is how it ends up this is a picture 220 00:09:59,060 --> 00:09:53,700 of the actual banana that's being passed 221 00:10:01,670 --> 00:09:59,070 around here's how we do this there are 222 00:10:03,440 --> 00:10:01,680 stages of ripening this is for people 223 00:10:06,850 --> 00:10:03,450 who have gone bananas or who want to and 224 00:10:10,040 --> 00:10:06,860 it turns out that you can really only 225 00:10:14,390 --> 00:10:10,050 mummify bananas reliably if it's at 226 00:10:16,910 --> 00:10:14,400 stage one or two so if you haven't 227 00:10:18,079 --> 00:10:16,920 already I mean this is at least stage 228 00:10:19,640 --> 00:10:18,089 three where I'm gonna give it a try 229 00:10:21,620 --> 00:10:19,650 collectively in here I'm gonna see what 230 00:10:23,390 --> 00:10:21,630 happens if we as a group can mummify 231 00:10:27,170 --> 00:10:23,400 this banana I don't mean it's gonna 232 00:10:29,420 --> 00:10:27,180 happen right away but it seems not to 233 00:10:32,269 --> 00:10:29,430 work if it's too far along the rotting 234 00:10:33,770 --> 00:10:32,279 or the ripening process ripening and 235 00:10:37,430 --> 00:10:33,780 rotting or essentially the same so if 236 00:10:38,720 --> 00:10:37,440 it's too far along the process and so 237 00:10:41,569 --> 00:10:38,730 again I'm encouraging you 238 00:10:42,829 --> 00:10:41,579 play with this maguet some looks and 239 00:10:45,019 --> 00:10:42,839 people will actually think you've gone 240 00:10:46,670 --> 00:10:45,029 bananas I've gone to a grocery store and 241 00:10:49,550 --> 00:10:46,680 I say do you have any green bananas and 242 00:10:51,199 --> 00:10:49,560 they say will the ripe ones are out 243 00:10:52,850 --> 00:10:51,209 there and I say you know I want a green 244 00:10:57,769 --> 00:10:52,860 one but the ripe ones are out there so I 245 00:11:02,660 --> 00:10:57,779 want to grit why look them straight in 246 00:11:06,280 --> 00:11:02,670 the eye and say I'm gonna mummify them 247 00:11:11,629 --> 00:11:06,290 [Laughter] 248 00:11:15,650 --> 00:11:11,639 you get it a discount cuz they want you 249 00:11:17,360 --> 00:11:15,660 out of the freaking store don't talk to 250 00:11:19,160 --> 00:11:17,370 customer take what you need get out get 251 00:11:22,610 --> 00:11:19,170 out you know and have you tried the the 252 00:11:24,199 --> 00:11:22,620 store down the road and so you want to 253 00:11:26,389 --> 00:11:24,209 do this at stage one or two 254 00:11:28,759 --> 00:11:26,399 it's really what we're shooting for and 255 00:11:31,310 --> 00:11:28,769 the greener the better and we try 256 00:11:33,920 --> 00:11:31,320 treatments we're talking about treating 257 00:11:35,990 --> 00:11:33,930 a banana here folks and so you can treat 258 00:11:38,840 --> 00:11:36,000 bananas as you see in the top left like 259 00:11:40,720 --> 00:11:38,850 this we pistol-grip them we try them 260 00:11:46,960 --> 00:11:40,730 here we've tried all sorts of things 261 00:11:52,059 --> 00:11:49,059 hey if you've gone bananas what the hell 262 00:11:54,490 --> 00:11:52,069 uh we've tried it through healing 263 00:11:56,879 --> 00:11:54,500 surrogates so the bottom right is cotton 264 00:11:59,350 --> 00:11:56,889 which also goes back to the great grad 265 00:12:01,389 --> 00:11:59,360 when we find healing surrogates to 266 00:12:04,540 --> 00:12:01,399 cotton in water and things of those 267 00:12:06,309 --> 00:12:04,550 sorts the end so I'm gonna report on 268 00:12:09,100 --> 00:12:06,319 what happens with all of these things 269 00:12:12,519 --> 00:12:09,110 but the effect isn't particularly subtle 270 00:12:15,660 --> 00:12:12,529 this is day one an example untreated and 271 00:12:18,639 --> 00:12:15,670 treated obviously there's no difference 272 00:12:20,199 --> 00:12:18,649 so we're starting out you're you're 273 00:12:20,910 --> 00:12:20,209 holding this for however long you're 274 00:12:23,170 --> 00:12:20,920 holding it 275 00:12:25,090 --> 00:12:23,180 whether it's treated or untreated look 276 00:12:28,269 --> 00:12:25,100 about the same but look by day twenty 277 00:12:30,100 --> 00:12:28,279 six it's it's pretty much over some 278 00:12:32,050 --> 00:12:30,110 people do it faster than others and 279 00:12:33,910 --> 00:12:32,060 again you don't have to you don't have 280 00:12:35,679 --> 00:12:33,920 to do detail things to find out there's 281 00:12:37,960 --> 00:12:35,689 a difference going on here between one 282 00:12:39,910 --> 00:12:37,970 group or the other the bottom one is not 283 00:12:42,639 --> 00:12:39,920 reacting the way the top one is the top 284 00:12:44,650 --> 00:12:42,649 one the untreated will get rotten fruit 285 00:12:46,619 --> 00:12:44,660 flies will abound and it's going to get 286 00:12:48,280 --> 00:12:46,629 ugly and smelling and everything else 287 00:12:52,299 --> 00:12:48,290 nothing like that's going to happen 288 00:12:53,860 --> 00:12:52,309 until it becomes essentially would I say 289 00:12:56,290 --> 00:12:53,870 essentially because it's not really 290 00:12:59,259 --> 00:12:56,300 would we put it under a microscope and 291 00:13:02,499 --> 00:12:59,269 you go I don't know it's a tree who 292 00:13:04,269 --> 00:13:02,509 knows so there is there's clear 293 00:13:08,049 --> 00:13:04,279 differences that go on you can do this 294 00:13:09,879 --> 00:13:08,059 with parts so we slice up bananas we 295 00:13:11,319 --> 00:13:09,889 actually have some now skinned bananas 296 00:13:14,740 --> 00:13:11,329 it's going on right now I don't know 297 00:13:17,549 --> 00:13:14,750 what's going to happen we'll find out we 298 00:13:20,949 --> 00:13:17,559 tried it with tomatoes it doesn't work 299 00:13:23,079 --> 00:13:20,959 potatoes sometimes work and and once 300 00:13:25,869 --> 00:13:23,089 again I suggest be playful see what 301 00:13:27,819 --> 00:13:25,879 happens so we have at this point about 302 00:13:30,850 --> 00:13:27,829 fifty iterations of the banana 303 00:13:33,790 --> 00:13:30,860 experiments trying to look for patterns 304 00:13:36,610 --> 00:13:33,800 and this comes from the question do we 305 00:13:39,040 --> 00:13:36,620 have a viable healing model that we 306 00:13:41,559 --> 00:13:39,050 could start doing a variety of tests 307 00:13:43,569 --> 00:13:41,569 about so our targets for the most part 308 00:13:46,569 --> 00:13:43,579 have been bananas and this is the bulk 309 00:13:49,299 --> 00:13:46,579 of it but we've done sections we've done 310 00:13:53,290 --> 00:13:49,309 potatoes tomatoes now the methods of 311 00:13:55,389 --> 00:13:53,300 delivery you look at the list palms so 312 00:13:57,189 --> 00:13:55,399 this means what it sounds like so you 313 00:14:00,610 --> 00:13:57,199 hold it in the palms for whatever the 314 00:14:04,720 --> 00:14:00,620 duration is we do it with fingertips 315 00:14:09,130 --> 00:14:04,730 we do it with pistol grips we do it by 316 00:14:10,510 --> 00:14:09,140 putting the banana on chakra points and 317 00:14:16,990 --> 00:14:10,520 where do you find out what happens with 318 00:14:18,940 --> 00:14:17,000 that it's nutty we do it with accurate 319 00:14:21,040 --> 00:14:18,950 with under pyramids we do it with 320 00:14:23,860 --> 00:14:21,050 acupuncture we do it with distant 321 00:14:26,650 --> 00:14:23,870 healing proximal healing touch not touch 322 00:14:28,630 --> 00:14:26,660 close all this we tried dose variations 323 00:14:32,500 --> 00:14:28,640 we try and healing surrogates cotton 324 00:14:35,080 --> 00:14:32,510 water conduits oak dowels things of that 325 00:14:39,940 --> 00:14:35,090 nature so we've tried a lot of different 326 00:14:43,960 --> 00:14:39,950 stuff than grads original experiments so 327 00:14:45,820 --> 00:14:43,970 the real summary is what's taking place 328 00:14:49,030 --> 00:14:45,830 is unknown I don't know what something's 329 00:14:50,830 --> 00:14:49,040 obviously happening but what it is I 330 00:14:55,180 --> 00:14:50,840 don't know frankly I need a plant 331 00:14:58,600 --> 00:14:55,190 physiologist mummification is certainly 332 00:15:01,210 --> 00:14:58,610 different from desiccation again it does 333 00:15:06,460 --> 00:15:01,220 not rot it's it simply very very very 334 00:15:10,120 --> 00:15:06,470 rapidly desiccates this is contact 335 00:15:12,310 --> 00:15:10,130 dependent now this is very curious to me 336 00:15:15,720 --> 00:15:12,320 I have as some of you know a whole bunch 337 00:15:18,790 --> 00:15:15,730 of studies on mice and such I use I have 338 00:15:21,100 --> 00:15:18,800 EEG studies I functional MRI studies I 339 00:15:24,460 --> 00:15:21,110 do it from distance I do i replicate 340 00:15:26,110 --> 00:15:24,470 studies on healing from two inches to 341 00:15:28,240 --> 00:15:26,120 two thousand miles I get the same 342 00:15:30,880 --> 00:15:28,250 readings at a distance doesn't seem to 343 00:15:35,770 --> 00:15:30,890 matter the healing doesn't respect 344 00:15:39,610 --> 00:15:35,780 distance mummification does you have to 345 00:15:41,710 --> 00:15:39,620 touch the banana and it doesn't have to 346 00:15:45,340 --> 00:15:41,720 be I got to grab it I just have to make 347 00:15:49,300 --> 00:15:45,350 some contact so even if you're a 348 00:15:53,560 --> 00:15:49,310 millimeter away it won't mummify it's 349 00:15:55,120 --> 00:15:53,570 pretty interesting it can be blocked 350 00:15:56,830 --> 00:15:55,130 I can't block the healing I haven't 351 00:15:58,270 --> 00:15:56,840 found a way to block the healing so we 352 00:16:01,300 --> 00:15:58,280 can block it with a thin layer or a 353 00:16:02,620 --> 00:16:01,310 plastic so you wrap your hair and wrap 354 00:16:05,230 --> 00:16:02,630 on your hand and you do the regular 355 00:16:08,620 --> 00:16:05,240 thing you've mummified a banana you put 356 00:16:13,280 --> 00:16:08,630 sort of saran wrap it won't mummify it's 357 00:16:17,310 --> 00:16:15,450 yeah we can block it with a whole lot of 358 00:16:18,590 --> 00:16:17,320 other things we it grounding doesn't 359 00:16:21,900 --> 00:16:18,600 seem to matter 360 00:16:26,180 --> 00:16:21,910 it's dose-dependent but the dose varies 361 00:16:29,519 --> 00:16:26,190 by person so George liked to spin this 362 00:16:30,030 --> 00:16:29,529 seven times two and a half minutes at a 363 00:16:32,970 --> 00:16:30,040 time 364 00:16:35,250 --> 00:16:32,980 grad said reasonably let's try it five 365 00:16:37,650 --> 00:16:35,260 minutes at a time see if it accelerates 366 00:16:40,500 --> 00:16:37,660 it it wouldn't mummify it slowed down 367 00:16:41,910 --> 00:16:40,510 and you hit a certain point so he was 368 00:16:45,120 --> 00:16:41,920 comfortable with two and a half minutes 369 00:16:47,310 --> 00:16:45,130 other people five minutes at a time 370 00:16:49,079 --> 00:16:47,320 other people ten minutes at a time and 371 00:16:51,960 --> 00:16:49,089 and what seems to matter in terms of 372 00:16:53,730 --> 00:16:51,970 dose is cumulative dose and what we 373 00:16:56,310 --> 00:16:53,740 found is you need to be touching the 374 00:16:58,590 --> 00:16:56,320 banana for approximately a total of an 375 00:17:01,019 --> 00:16:58,600 hour and then you can just leave it 376 00:17:03,060 --> 00:17:01,029 alone it'll mummify so if you want to do 377 00:17:05,130 --> 00:17:03,070 that at four 15-minute intervals you'll 378 00:17:06,990 --> 00:17:05,140 want to do it at 12 5-minute intervals 379 00:17:08,669 --> 00:17:07,000 you want you need to put in an hour's 380 00:17:10,650 --> 00:17:08,679 time with the banana that's what we 381 00:17:19,949 --> 00:17:10,660 found and there is some variation by 382 00:17:24,569 --> 00:17:19,959 person you don't have to try to heal but 383 00:17:27,090 --> 00:17:24,579 you can stop it if I try deliberately to 384 00:17:31,530 --> 00:17:27,100 not let it mummify just a mental 385 00:17:33,320 --> 00:17:31,540 intention doesn't mummify but in order 386 00:17:36,030 --> 00:17:33,330 to get it to mummify it'll just mummify 387 00:17:37,740 --> 00:17:36,040 so simply the fleeting intent so you 388 00:17:39,210 --> 00:17:37,750 don't think it had too real flopping on 389 00:17:41,520 --> 00:17:39,220 the floor all excited about this stuff 390 00:17:47,520 --> 00:17:41,530 just hold it with a casual intent to to 391 00:17:49,650 --> 00:17:47,530 mummify a little mummify you can't do it 392 00:17:51,780 --> 00:17:49,660 with cotton you can't do it with water 393 00:17:54,090 --> 00:17:51,790 at this point I'm reasonably certain 394 00:17:56,430 --> 00:17:54,100 that cotton works as a healing surrogate 395 00:17:58,320 --> 00:17:56,440 I'm really certain that water works as a 396 00:18:00,030 --> 00:17:58,330 healing surrogate I have experiments 397 00:18:03,750 --> 00:18:00,040 holding water and giving the water to 398 00:18:06,660 --> 00:18:03,760 cancerous mice the mice get cured if I 399 00:18:08,220 --> 00:18:06,670 immerse bananas in treated water nothing 400 00:18:12,030 --> 00:18:08,230 if I wrapped them with treated cotton 401 00:18:15,380 --> 00:18:12,040 nothing they they they rot there's I am 402 00:18:22,250 --> 00:18:20,970 you can put the banana on any the heart 403 00:18:25,790 --> 00:18:22,260 chakra 404 00:18:29,780 --> 00:18:25,800 head just tape it and walk around for an 405 00:18:31,520 --> 00:18:29,790 hour and it'll mummify if you put it on 406 00:18:43,580 --> 00:18:31,530 a spot that doesn't have a chakra it 407 00:18:46,130 --> 00:18:43,590 rots try it you two can go bananas so as 408 00:18:49,420 --> 00:18:46,140 I running out of time here are we adding 409 00:18:59,330 --> 00:18:49,430 and we subtracting I don't know are we 410 00:19:01,790 --> 00:18:59,340 how are we suppose what enzymes what 411 00:19:04,850 --> 00:19:01,800 what what we need to do a lot of work on 412 00:19:05,390 --> 00:19:04,860 this so really what's going on I don't 413 00:19:15,620 --> 00:19:05,400 know 414 00:19:17,570 --> 00:19:15,630 whoops is it chakras might it be risen 415 00:19:19,310 --> 00:19:17,580 and bonding some of you know my resin 416 00:19:21,590 --> 00:19:19,320 and bonding with the mice we've had 417 00:19:23,900 --> 00:19:21,600 selected but not consistent resin and 418 00:19:27,620 --> 00:19:23,910 bonding when you take bananas off a hand 419 00:19:30,710 --> 00:19:27,630 so you have a hand of mice of my see a 420 00:19:32,270 --> 00:19:30,720 hand of gum bananas so a hand off if you 421 00:19:34,250 --> 00:19:32,280 take a banana a banana some become 422 00:19:36,500 --> 00:19:34,260 randomly treated some become randomly 423 00:19:38,870 --> 00:19:36,510 untreated sometimes we've gotten some 424 00:19:42,920 --> 00:19:38,880 indication of some resonant bonding with 425 00:19:44,390 --> 00:19:42,930 physically separate bananas oh we 426 00:19:53,129 --> 00:19:44,400 obviously need some genomics on the 427 00:19:57,999 --> 00:19:56,230 the real the real bottom line here 428 00:20:00,220 --> 00:19:58,009 before I take questions is it's it's not 429 00:20:03,279 --> 00:20:00,230 turning out to be a great mouth 430 00:20:04,869 --> 00:20:03,289 surrogate it's it's still I don't know 431 00:20:06,850 --> 00:20:04,879 what's happening and it's not it's 432 00:20:09,190 --> 00:20:06,860 direct it's not directly analogous to 433 00:20:11,110 --> 00:20:09,200 the healing so when we do the mice we 434 00:20:13,810 --> 00:20:11,120 don't touch the mice you got to touch 435 00:20:16,749 --> 00:20:13,820 the banana so it's a different process 436 00:20:18,340 --> 00:20:16,759 so it's curious as we take questions and 437 00:20:21,100 --> 00:20:18,350 for the rest of it I'd also like to try 438 00:20:23,169 --> 00:20:21,110 an experiment if Adam will start it if 439 00:20:25,320 --> 00:20:23,179 we could take this and everybody just 440 00:20:28,779 --> 00:20:25,330 hold it for like a minute and pass it on 441 00:20:33,279 --> 00:20:28,789 and I want to see if this can we have an 442 00:20:36,430 --> 00:20:33,289 SSC mummified banana this is the this is 443 00:20:38,409 --> 00:20:36,440 the greenest we could find Adam got this 444 00:20:41,859 --> 00:20:38,419 for me and so just a you don't think I'm 445 00:20:43,509 --> 00:20:41,869 nuts just kind of hold it like I have 446 00:20:45,669 --> 00:20:43,519 gum bananas pass it on you know and 447 00:20:47,619 --> 00:20:45,679 we'll see what happens so I'd like that 448 00:20:48,190 --> 00:20:47,629 back I'd also like the grad banana back 449 00:20:50,710 --> 00:20:48,200 please 450 00:20:54,820 --> 00:20:50,720 at the end of this a bill I have a 451 00:20:56,769 --> 00:20:54,830 question right here yeah so one thing 452 00:20:58,480 --> 00:20:56,779 that comes in my mind is the role of 453 00:21:00,129 --> 00:20:58,490 methylglyoxal if you search on 454 00:21:02,649 --> 00:21:00,139 methylglyoxal and bananas you're gonna 455 00:21:04,690 --> 00:21:02,659 see quite a bit turning up and then 456 00:21:06,279 --> 00:21:04,700 you're gonna read works by people like 457 00:21:09,070 --> 00:21:06,289 albert szent-györgyi 458 00:21:10,749 --> 00:21:09,080 and methylglyoxal so healing you're 459 00:21:12,820 --> 00:21:10,759 gonna read about that in that too so I 460 00:21:14,440 --> 00:21:12,830 think that would be the place I would 461 00:21:16,840 --> 00:21:14,450 encourage you very strongly to look at 462 00:21:27,250 --> 00:21:16,850 yeah yeah and and that's on the list 463 00:21:33,370 --> 00:21:29,940 humans as well as our primate relatives 464 00:21:36,280 --> 00:21:33,380 eat bananas is it possible that this 465 00:21:39,310 --> 00:21:36,290 isn't something the human being is doing 466 00:21:41,470 --> 00:21:39,320 at all but it's some sort of weird plant 467 00:21:46,030 --> 00:21:41,480 defensive reaction to the detected 468 00:21:48,280 --> 00:21:46,040 presence of a plant predator that that 469 00:21:51,430 --> 00:21:48,290 would be a serious flaw in evolution 470 00:21:55,210 --> 00:21:51,440 because if you as the predator come and 471 00:21:57,130 --> 00:21:55,220 in only 26 days it's going to mummify it 472 00:21:58,600 --> 00:21:57,140 would have to be a very slothful 473 00:22:02,260 --> 00:21:58,610 predator yeah 474 00:22:04,540 --> 00:22:02,270 [Laughter] 475 00:22:07,150 --> 00:22:04,550 Jerry I think I don't know where I don't 476 00:22:09,880 --> 00:22:07,160 know okay Julie has it she Legion I have 477 00:22:12,580 --> 00:22:09,890 a question and then a comment first 478 00:22:16,510 --> 00:22:12,590 whose genius idea was that to pass the 479 00:22:19,900 --> 00:22:16,520 green banana around the room whose 480 00:22:22,510 --> 00:22:19,910 genius idea was I think it was mine 481 00:22:30,670 --> 00:22:22,520 III don't I don't recall I think it was 482 00:22:32,170 --> 00:22:30,680 somebody on the council briefly but I so 483 00:22:35,640 --> 00:22:32,180 appreciate you trying to find an 484 00:22:39,070 --> 00:22:35,650 alternative to a mouse model and a 485 00:22:41,440 --> 00:22:39,080 banana is not a whole living thing you 486 00:22:43,090 --> 00:22:41,450 know I tried in the alternative mascot I 487 00:22:55,300 --> 00:22:43,100 tried to use freshmen but I couldn't get 488 00:22:58,150 --> 00:22:55,310 it to an IRB so a whole plant might be a 489 00:22:59,980 --> 00:22:58,160 better represent but I really I agree 490 00:23:01,960 --> 00:22:59,990 with you and this doesn't seem to be a 491 00:23:05,890 --> 00:23:01,970 good surrogate for the healing research 492 00:23:08,560 --> 00:23:05,900 but it is something that's curious and I 493 00:23:11,110 --> 00:23:08,570 encourage you to play and here's an 494 00:23:13,810 --> 00:23:11,120 interesting thing grad in his own 495 00:23:16,420 --> 00:23:13,820 inimitable style would give mice to 496 00:23:18,280 --> 00:23:16,430 healers he knew and bananas then after 497 00:23:20,740 --> 00:23:18,290 after this the healers he knew there 498 00:23:24,490 --> 00:23:20,750 were a whole number of healers who could 499 00:23:26,320 --> 00:23:24,500 not do this and there were some pretty 500 00:23:28,480 --> 00:23:26,330 well known you'd know the names if I 501 00:23:30,730 --> 00:23:28,490 said it and I have a list of because I 502 00:23:31,870 --> 00:23:30,740 have some of grads lab notes of the 503 00:23:34,060 --> 00:23:31,880 healers who could in the healers I 504 00:23:36,190 --> 00:23:34,070 couldn't but it it and this was grad 505 00:23:39,790 --> 00:23:36,200 speculation to me the healers who 506 00:23:40,630 --> 00:23:39,800 couldn't heal they were almost turned 507 00:23:43,960 --> 00:23:40,640 off by it 508 00:23:46,000 --> 00:23:43,970 this is stupid you know I'm not bananas 509 00:23:48,310 --> 00:23:46,010 you know and whereas I have lower 510 00:23:51,010 --> 00:23:48,320 standards I'll try anything 511 00:23:53,320 --> 00:23:51,020 yeah and the ones who said oh this is 512 00:23:55,090 --> 00:23:53,330 stupid couldn't do it whereas they were 513 00:23:58,390 --> 00:23:55,100 and clearly passed the test of healing 514 00:24:01,360 --> 00:23:58,400 in his lab I don't know gene you're 515 00:24:04,840 --> 00:24:01,370 there but Adams got the mic so what 516 00:24:09,430 --> 00:24:04,850 other things could George ill Illya 517 00:24:12,130 --> 00:24:09,440 Illya do besides bananas and why did he 518 00:24:14,400 --> 00:24:12,140 even want to try to do this you know I 519 00:24:16,960 --> 00:24:14,410 actually don't know the answer to that 520 00:24:18,550 --> 00:24:16,970 you when you're sitting in grads house 521 00:24:21,430 --> 00:24:18,560 here and he's showing you all his 522 00:24:24,790 --> 00:24:21,440 historical stuff you're just to audit 523 00:24:29,680 --> 00:24:24,800 the stuff I really don't know how he how 524 00:24:30,310 --> 00:24:29,690 he started it yeah I have a comment and 525 00:24:33,250 --> 00:24:30,320 a question 526 00:24:35,560 --> 00:24:33,260 I share Bill's reverence for Grad I got 527 00:24:37,840 --> 00:24:35,570 to work with him for more than a summer 528 00:24:39,670 --> 00:24:37,850 and he gave me a mummified banana which 529 00:24:42,490 --> 00:24:39,680 I drilled a hole in and used for a 530 00:24:46,690 --> 00:24:42,500 keychain yeah for many years now you can 531 00:24:49,450 --> 00:24:46,700 make your own but my my question is is 532 00:24:52,660 --> 00:24:49,460 this totally a binary phenomenon that is 533 00:24:54,480 --> 00:24:52,670 to say if no if the person did just a 534 00:24:58,360 --> 00:24:54,490 little less than they should have 535 00:25:02,590 --> 00:24:58,370 no no we've taken it in the DOS question 536 00:25:05,020 --> 00:25:02,600 too it's not all or none you get we've 537 00:25:08,110 --> 00:25:05,030 had partially mummified bananas with 538 00:25:11,800 --> 00:25:08,120 insufficient dose so it's not a binary 539 00:25:13,410 --> 00:25:11,810 response it's close to it but you still 540 00:25:16,420 --> 00:25:13,420 have you can tell when it's rotting and 541 00:25:18,820 --> 00:25:16,430 it you can see that it's starting to 542 00:25:21,010 --> 00:25:18,830 take on but then it's just kind of the 543 00:25:28,450 --> 00:25:21,020 mummification process is eliminated 544 00:25:31,060 --> 00:25:28,460 I got Gerry join Beverley but I so I 545 00:25:33,010 --> 00:25:31,070 showed in my presentation two different 546 00:25:35,590 --> 00:25:33,020 kinds of water the easy water and the 547 00:25:38,050 --> 00:25:35,600 regular the easy water sticks to the 548 00:25:41,260 --> 00:25:38,060 protein it won't evaporate very quickly 549 00:25:43,060 --> 00:25:41,270 the ordinary water can evaporate very 550 00:25:45,010 --> 00:25:43,070 quickly I'm just wondering I don't have 551 00:25:47,070 --> 00:25:45,020 an answer for you it's just an idea 552 00:25:50,490 --> 00:25:47,080 whether touching it might somehow 553 00:25:53,289 --> 00:25:50,500 convert the easy water that stuck to the 554 00:25:54,519 --> 00:25:53,299 proteins and sugars in the banana to 555 00:25:57,460 --> 00:25:54,529 ordinary water and then it'll evaporate 556 00:26:00,190 --> 00:25:57,470 quickly yeah possible here III would 557 00:26:03,249 --> 00:26:00,200 think it's I can't rule it out and it's 558 00:26:04,840 --> 00:26:03,259 really just any contact so you don't 559 00:26:08,169 --> 00:26:04,850 have to grab the thing you just but you 560 00:26:10,029 --> 00:26:08,179 can't I mean we've really locked our 561 00:26:11,710 --> 00:26:10,039 hands in it one millimeter away and it 562 00:26:13,899 --> 00:26:11,720 doesn't mum it's astonishing to me 563 00:26:15,580 --> 00:26:13,909 considering the amount of distant 564 00:26:18,669 --> 00:26:15,590 healing experiments that I've done and 565 00:26:21,489 --> 00:26:18,679 so I've done EE G's functional MRIs from 566 00:26:23,830 --> 00:26:21,499 a distance cancer cures from a distance 567 00:26:26,099 --> 00:26:23,840 all that stuff and this is contact 568 00:26:29,080 --> 00:26:26,109 dependent we've never had a banana 569 00:26:31,090 --> 00:26:29,090 mummify by just standing there and doing 570 00:26:34,659 --> 00:26:31,100 it or even wrapping it up and the part 571 00:26:36,399 --> 00:26:34,669 that is is most perplexing to me is we 572 00:26:38,289 --> 00:26:36,409 certainly can use cotton as a surrogate 573 00:26:40,899 --> 00:26:38,299 for healing I mean that's I think 574 00:26:41,409 --> 00:26:40,909 reasonably nails and but if we wrap the 575 00:26:46,479 --> 00:26:41,419 banana 576 00:26:48,609 --> 00:26:46,489 it doesn't mummify it still rots and I'm 577 00:26:51,249 --> 00:26:48,619 not sure how to think about that and so 578 00:26:53,590 --> 00:26:51,259 my problem is I have too many unknowns 579 00:26:55,899 --> 00:26:53,600 that this becomes not particularly 580 00:26:58,539 --> 00:26:55,909 viable model to continue the healing 581 00:27:00,729 --> 00:26:58,549 research so I it's curious but I don't 582 00:27:03,580 --> 00:27:00,739 know what to do with it I agree with 583 00:27:06,789 --> 00:27:03,590 Gerry I think a key issue is the rapid 584 00:27:09,849 --> 00:27:06,799 loss of water and I'm thinking you know 585 00:27:12,369 --> 00:27:09,859 the gdv camera might be a good way to to 586 00:27:14,379 --> 00:27:12,379 study the mummification process before 587 00:27:16,960 --> 00:27:14,389 it becomes would like because then you 588 00:27:19,840 --> 00:27:16,970 could look at sections and explore how 589 00:27:21,609 --> 00:27:19,850 it changes with a controlled banana from 590 00:27:23,710 --> 00:27:21,619 the same bunch that wasn't treated 591 00:27:25,989 --> 00:27:23,720 that's just going to ripening that might 592 00:27:28,450 --> 00:27:25,999 be one way to look at least if you're 593 00:27:30,629 --> 00:27:28,460 yeah Vernon you hear Beverley said yeah 594 00:27:33,340 --> 00:27:30,639 well that's an experiment we're doing 595 00:27:35,979 --> 00:27:33,350 yeah no thank you that it's a good idea 596 00:27:39,369 --> 00:27:35,989 I think genes been waiting you know 597 00:27:43,899 --> 00:27:39,379 Eugene if you've got more we'll do two 598 00:27:46,859 --> 00:27:43,909 more questions okay I was just wondering 599 00:27:49,539 --> 00:27:46,869 if is this possibly a natural process 600 00:27:53,529 --> 00:27:49,549 like say part of the banana trees 601 00:27:55,749 --> 00:27:53,539 reproduction process and then I was 602 00:27:57,519 --> 00:27:55,759 thinking maybe we could send a freshman 603 00:28:00,009 --> 00:27:57,529 Benin ologist 604 00:28:01,989 --> 00:28:00,019 out to a banana tree that hasn't been 605 00:28:04,210 --> 00:28:01,999 harvested and count if see if they can 606 00:28:05,619 --> 00:28:04,220 find any mummified bananas yeah they'd 607 00:28:06,250 --> 00:28:05,629 have dropped from the tree or something 608 00:28:08,170 --> 00:28:06,260 like that 609 00:28:13,420 --> 00:28:08,180 yeah and I don't I don't know enough to 610 00:28:16,180 --> 00:28:13,430 answer the question just one comment a 611 00:28:17,830 --> 00:28:16,190 long while ago I witnessed a woman who 612 00:28:20,290 --> 00:28:17,840 was one of the more gifted energy 613 00:28:23,440 --> 00:28:20,300 healers in the Boston area clear 614 00:28:26,200 --> 00:28:23,450 cloudiness out of a quartz crystal by 615 00:28:28,240 --> 00:28:26,210 doing something similar and my sense is 616 00:28:30,460 --> 00:28:28,250 that one possibility is the cloudiness 617 00:28:34,240 --> 00:28:30,470 was caused by some kind of interstitial 618 00:28:36,610 --> 00:28:34,250 water that she trapped in the crystal 619 00:28:38,590 --> 00:28:36,620 itself that she drove out simply by 620 00:28:41,080 --> 00:28:38,600 holding it and focusing on so this may 621 00:28:43,180 --> 00:28:41,090 work for inanimate objects as well it 622 00:28:45,280 --> 00:28:43,190 might it might yep we're just starting 623 00:28:46,810 --> 00:28:45,290 but again I I recommend you all try to 624 00:28:51,200 --> 00:28:46,820 play this give the greener with the 625 00:28:55,410 --> 00:28:51,210 banana the better thank you very much 626 00:29:01,750 --> 00:28:55,420 [Applause]